The conquest of Romiyya / Rome

From the point of view of eschatology, it is interesting that the lead article of the first issue of the English-language Jihadist magazine “Jihad Recollections” from Al-Fursan Media should deal with the conquest of Rome — which is here interpreted to mean the United States.

Sheik Yusuf al-Qaradawi, in a fatwa cited by MEMRI, clearly views the relevant hadith as referring to the Italian capital — and, one might add, seat of the Bishop of Rome:

The Prophet Muhammad was asked: “What city will be conquered first, Constantinople or Romiyya?” He answered: “The city of Hirqil will be conquered first’ — that is, Constantinople. . . . Romiyya is the city called today “Rome,” the capital of Italy. The city of Hirqil was conquered by the young 23-year-old Ottoman Muhammad bin Morad, known in history as Muhammad the Conqueror, in 1453. The other city, Romiyya, remains, and we hope and believe [that it too will be conquered]. This means that Islam will return to Europe as a conqueror and victor, after being expelled from it twice — once from the South, from Andalusia, and a second time from the East, when it knocked several times on the door of Athens.

But then this business of using one place-name as a metaphor for another is something we also meet in Christianity, where Martin Luther for instance declares “I know that the Papacy is none other than the kingdom of Babylon” identifying the latter city with Rome … while less classically and more recently, Gary DeMar (End Times Fiction, p. 128) identifies “mystery Babylon” with Jerusalem, Grant Jeffrey (War on Terror: Unfolding Bible Prophecy, p. 127) reads it as literally the Babylon that Saddam Hussein was, at the time of writing, rebuilding, and David Wilkerson holds Babylon to be the United States (cited by Michael Evans in The American Prophecies, p. 36).

So: does the conquest of Romiyya mean the capture of the Holy See — and thus the Islamic defeat of Christendom — or the conquest of Wall Street?


For a tangential comment on the presence of a distinguished naval historian’s work in the same article, see my blog post today at hipbone out loud.

The journal itself can be downloaded here

See Jarret Brachman’s page-by-page analysis starting here


2 Responses to “The conquest of Romiyya / Rome”

  1. Dr.D Says:

    This looks like a very interesting blog, but then it seems to just end. Have you stopped for good?

  2. hipbone Says:


    My interest hasn’t waned, but I’ve recently been guest blogging on similar topics at Zenpundit, eg:

    I appreciate your asking — for now, that’s where you’ll find me.

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